Episode 2

Oli and Flo: Life with a Bearded Dragon ESA

Oli shares how Flo, her bearded dragon, helps her feel calmer when attending appointments and going about daily life. She discusses caring for Flo, introducing her to people in the community, and the importance of checking with a venue before bringing her along.

11 February 2025 Guest: Oli and Flo, her bearded dragon

About this episode

Oli joins The Emotional Support Animals Show with Flo, her bearded dragon and emotional support animal. She describes how Flo’s presence and the simple act of stroking her can help when anxiety makes appointments or everyday outings difficult.

The episode explores how people in Oli’s community have responded to Flo, including the conversations that arise when they meet an animal they may not expect to see. Oli also talks about the routine of caring for a bearded dragon, Flo’s heating and lighting needs, and why travelling with her would require planning. When visiting a doctor or another venue, Oli says she calls ahead to check whether Flo can come with her.

Published on 11 February 2025; the recording date has not been confirmed. Oli’s account describes her own experience and does not mean that ESA registration guarantees entry to public places. Venue decisions and relevant guidance can change, so viewers should check current requirements with each provider before making arrangements.

Topics covered

  • Living with a bearded dragon as an emotional support animal
  • Anxiety and everyday appointments
  • Hidden disabilities and emotional support
  • Calling ahead before visiting venues
  • Community reactions to an unusual ESA
  • Bearded dragon care and routine
  • Planning for travel with a reptile

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Episode transcript

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hello can you start by introducing yourself and telling us a bit about your Essa uh what kind of animal do you have
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and what is their name so I'm olly and my animals right here she's a bearded dragon her name's flow and so she's a
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bit unusual for a emotional support animal and she's not a cat or a dog but she works for
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me how has having a Esa impacted your daytoday life and mental well-being it makes it a lot easier if
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I'm going somewhere like an appointment that I would normally get quite anxious at just knowing that I can take her if I
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need to cuz she calms me down and just having that option now just makes day-to-day life a lot easier mhm could
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you share a particular story or instance where your Essa provided Comfort or support during a challenging
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time yes so anytime that I been to the doctors for example just gives me a lot of anxiety and so obviously we call
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ahead and make sure that it is okay um because yeah and then she just gives me
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a lot of comfort and you know just even just stroking her calms me down a lot so mhm okay what are the some of the
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biggest benefits you've experience since getting your Esa definitely um just knowing that
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she's there like I say and um just being able to um take her knowing
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that you know she is allowed to be there and it's not just you know taking her for fun so okay she helps me a lot have you
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encountered any challenges or obstacles uh with having an Essa especially in public places or specific establishments I mean occasionally there
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will be people around that are a bit scared because she's you know not your normal cat or dog but um it's a good
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opportunity to educate people as well because she's she's not as scary as she might look um but I've never been like
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declined going in or anything but yeah so I just make sure everyone's comfy no that's good how do you feel that having
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Anessa has helped you connect with people in your community or has it affected your social life I think it's helped me connect to people
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because um you know a lot of people around me know her now and um again it's not it's an opportunity to educate people on her cuz people who are scared
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of lizards and stuff like that most of the time is just because of misinformation so I I have an opportunity what's the most surprising thing you've learned
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about ess's since getting one um probably just how many places you know I
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can take her if I need to or want to and I see how accepting most people are of
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it good are there any misconceptions about emotional support animals that you would like to clear up for our
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viewers um I think a lot of the time people think especially with lizard you know it's how like how can she help you
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you know you're not just taking her out for fun or for an excuse just to you know show her off but she genuinely does
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you don't even just joking her like this just it's nice to have how does your Essa help you manage
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specific symptoms of your uh hidden disability or condition um I'd say sometimes you know
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cuz like I do have hidden disabilities but as well just with general anxiety around them it is mainly an anxiety
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thing and you know I've tried you know fidget toys and everything like that when going out but nothing helps as much as you know being with her cuz animals
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are what I really love so mhm how receptive has businesses as service providers in your city or town being
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towards your Essa have you found certain places more accepting than others obviously everywhere's been pretty
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receptive um obviously I do get some funny looks when I say it's a lizard but um every course been pretty receptive
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and the places that are sort of frequent now know her and yeah so I found it
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quite good great um if you've traveled with Essa what was the experience like and did you have any challenges I
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haven't traveled with her yet just because obviously she just need Heating and lighting and everything it's not quite as simple as putting a dog in the
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car but if I do in the future then hopefully that all go okay what advice would you give to someone who is
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considering getting an emotional support animal I'd definitely say go for it cuz it's been you know really amazing and really freeing again now that I have
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that choice to take her out if I am feeling particularly anxious so yeah it's definitely made going to places that make me
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anx a lot more you know comfortable do you have any tips for managing the care and well-being of
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Vanessa especially for people with disabilities or mental health challenges um I think I mean it's quite
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specific to bearded dragon which is what she is but um just
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like I don't know cuz it's it's hard to say cuz she's obviously not yeah unique yeah but just her day-to-day routine
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taking care of her helps me as well cuz that's just something I love taking care of animals so great lastly what's the
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one thing you would like people to understand or appreciate about 's that they might not realize definitely just that even you
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know because I don't have have any um like visual disabilities like I'm not taking her out just for the fun of it um
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I do feel like probably even though people don't vocalize it people probably do say it's just an excuse but it's definitely not and she definitely calms
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me down and I'm very lucky to have her as my Essa great okay that's it thanks
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so thank you
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