Episode 5
Cheyenne and Roy: Emotional Support from a Royal Python
Cheyenne introduces Roy, her royal python, and explains how his presence helps her manage anxiety during everyday activities such as shopping. She discusses their close bond, people’s reactions to snakes, becoming more confident socially, and the value of family support when caring for an emotional support animal.
About this episode
Cheyenne joins The Emotional Support Animals Show with Roy, her royal python. She explains how, after moving out of her parents’ home, she noticed that having Roy nearby helped her feel calmer when going out. She recalls a shopping trip when his presence helped her settle during an anxiety attack.
The conversation explores the companionship Cheyenne finds in Roy and how their bond has helped her socialise and meet new people. She also describes the challenges of having a snake as an emotional support animal, including public curiosity, fear and judgement. Her advice includes building a family support network to help care for an animal on difficult days and respecting the space of someone receiving support from their animal.
This episode was published on 8 May 2025; the recording date has not been confirmed. Cheyenne describes her personal experiences and understanding at that time. Statements about taking Roy into public places should not be interpreted as guaranteed access through ESA registration. Venue policies and individual access decisions can change, so viewers should check current requirements with the relevant provider before visiting.
Topics covered
- Living with a royal python as an emotional support animal
- Managing anxiety during everyday activities
- Companionship and the bond with Roy
- Social confidence and meeting new people
- Public reactions to snakes
- Misconceptions about emotional support animals
- Family support with animal care
- Respecting an animal and its owner’s space
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Episode transcript
Chapter 1: Intro
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Hi. Can you start by introducing yourself and telling us a bit about your emotional support animal? What kind of animal do you have and what is their
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name? Hi. Um, I'm Cheyenne. Um, and this is Roy. He is a royal python.
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Um, so I've got diagnosed anxiety. So Roy here helped me with that. Okay. What
Chapter 2: What led you to decide that you needed an emotional support animal
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led you to decide that you needed an emotional support animal? Was there a specific moment or reason? When when I
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moved out from my parents, um I realized that a lot of the time when I went out, I was struggling with my anxiety and
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having Roy near me actually found it helped me find a way to calm myself down.
Chapter 3: How has having an emotional support animal impacted your day to day life
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How has having an emotional support animal impacted your day-to-day life and mental well-being? Um, it's improving it
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massively. Um, so Roy's like he's like my best friend or my little boy. So
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having him around is it makes me a lot calmer, a lot happier. Um, it gives me some extra support when I need some
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someone that I can't have a voice right there.
Chapter 4: Could you share a particular story or instance where your emotional support animal provided comfort or support
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Could you share a particular story or instance where your emotional support animal provided comfort or support during a challenging time? So I struggle
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going shopping um and I took Roy with me once. Um I was having an anxiety attack
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in the shop and I got Roy out and I was okay. I could breathe properly and it
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helped me settle really well. So, it's simple things like shopping where he's just really helpful. Mhm. What are some
Chapter 5: What are some of the biggest benefits youve experienced since getting your emotional support animal
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of the biggest benefits you've experienced since getting your emotional support animal? Um, like I said, he's like my best friend, so he does bring a lot of happiness.
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Um, and with him being able to keep me calm, it it does help a lot. But it helps when you when you're comforted by
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your own animal. It does give you a lot of um it it'll give you more joy. If you don't get along with your pet, it
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doesn't help, but when you're really close with one, it can benefit massively. Yeah, they're a
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big help. Have you encountered any challenges or obstacles with having an emotional support animal in especially
Chapter 6: Have you encountered any challenges or obstacles with having an emotional support animal
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in public places or specific establishments? So, because Royy's not like a cat or a dog, he's not your
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normal like first thought for an emotional support animal. Um, a lot of people are actually quite wary of snakes. They can be quite scared of
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them. Mhm. Um, sometimes you get people coming up to you and going, "Oh, what's that?" And they ask you if it's if he's
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real, and you just you don't know who to who to trust really around them. So, um, he's a very gentle snake, but you do get quite a bit of judgment when you're out.
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Mhm. Being a snake, it's not the same as having a dog or a cat as a support animal.
Chapter 7: Do you feel that having an emotional support animal has helped you connect with people in your community
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Yeah. Do you feel that having an emotional support animal has helped you connect with people in your community or has it affected your social life?
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Um, it's made it easier for me to socialize.
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Um, once people get used to him, people seem to be able to be around him as well. So, it's helped me be able to go out and meet new people.
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Mhm. Okay. What's the most surprising thing you've learned about emotional support animals since getting one?
Chapter 8: Whats the most surprising thing youve learned about emotional support animals
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How how attentive to things around them they can be. Um, that they can be very clever. Animals in general can be very
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smart. Um, and you find that they realize things before you even think about them.
Chapter 9: Are there any misconceptions about emotional support animals
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Are there any misconceptions about emotional support animals that you would like to clear clear up for anybody watching this show? A lot of people
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think that we just have them so we can bring our pets wherever we want. A lot of people think, oh, they've got an
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emotional support animal so they can go out with them. don't have to leave them at home. That's a really big misconception. Um for people who have
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support animals, they do need them. Um you'll never know what the real reason is because you some some um
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disabilities, they are hidden and people need to understand that we're not trying to just bring our animals out because we
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don't want to leave them at home. We bring them out to help us feel calm and safe around people and the environment we're in. I think everybody answers that question exactly the same.
Chapter 10: How does emotional support help you manage specific symptoms
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How does your emotional support at hand help you manage specific symptoms um of your hidden disability or condition? Um
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so he he's actually, believe it or not, he's good at giving hugs. Um, yeah, he will wrap you if he can feel that you're
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not happy or you're panicking, he'll wrap himself around you, but he'll do it gently. So, you know the difference between if he's trying to hurt you,
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which he doesn't. So, um, he'll wrap himself around me. He's just kind of he's just he sits there and you know you
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can stroke him. You just you stroke him, you breathe and it really helps.
Chapter 11: How all animals can tell when someone has anxiety
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It's amazing how all animals can tell when someone's um you know got anxiety or something like that, isn't it? Yeah. I think they've got superpowers to be fair.
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Yeah. Yeah. I always say they're better than people. Um how receptive has businesses and service
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providers in your city or town been towards your emotional support animal?
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Have you found certain places more accepting than others?
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Um so places with kids tend to be less accepting towards them than places with
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adults. You find that um even though you can bring them in and they know that
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they will be wary around you because a lot of kids don't get introduced to animals like for example dogs and cats.
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They get introduced to children more.
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animals like lizards, snakes, reptiles that are used for ESA is they um aren't introduced to children as much as the
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other ones. So, people can be wary around the fact that you're bringing an animal that maybe a kid's never seen
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before into a building, you know. Yeah, we've had on the show previously someone with a bearded
Chapter 12: Have you traveled with your emotional support animal
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dragon. So, uh yeah. Um have you traveled with your emotional support animal? He's been in the car with me and
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on walks. Um, he's been around where I live, but we've never really gone very far. Um,
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I've only recently been able to take him out legally properly with the ESA. So,
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hopefully I can take him to like crowd more crowded places because it would really help for me.
Chapter 13: What advice would you give to someone who is considering getting an emotional support animal
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What advice would you give to someone who is considering getting a emotional support animal? Any animal?
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Try it. You know, if you know your pet, for example, um helps you in situations that you don't think other animals might. It it can be really helpful.
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You've got to take that first step.
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You've got to find a way to get them with you.
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Um, don't be afraid because that fear that can stop you from doing a lot of things.
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Um, if you know you're better with something or someone, you know, don't let someone
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tell you you're not. Okay. Do you have any tips for managing uh the care and well-being of an emotional support
Chapter 14: Any tips for managing the care and wellbeing of an emotional support animal
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animal? Especially for people with uh hidden disabilities or mental health challenges. Having family around can be
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really helpful to help you keep and take care of your emotional support animal.
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We all understand that you can have days where you don't feel like doing things and having family around can help you look after the support and the animal
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that supports you as well in having that support system from humans as well as the animals. It it's a benefit for both.
Chapter 15: What would you like people to understand about emotional support animals
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Cool. Lastly, what's the one thing you would like people to understand or appreciate about emotional support animals that they might not realize?
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they they know more than you. Um they can read situations, they can feel
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people's emotions. If as a person who struggles with reading people's emotions sometimes, having an animal that knows
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what someone's feeling is is really helpful. Um people need to be able to understand
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that if you're walking on the street, there's a reason that animals there.
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there's a reason that someone's holding them close or if they've got a harness on and it's got like the ESA symbol on.
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There's reasons why you can't go up to them and pet them because they're doing a job they're helping someone at the same time. It's like you wouldn't go
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into someone's work and distract them so you don't distract the animals. Mhm.
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Okay. Thank you. Well, thank you very much. That was great.
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